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Post by priest on Jan 9, 2008 1:31:20 GMT -5
ONE DAY I MIHGT BE PRIME MINISTER We need a Leader Like This! Prime Minister John Howard - Australia Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on Wednesday to get out of Australia , as the government targeted radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks. Separately, Howard angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by saying he supported spy agencies monitoring the nation's mosques. Quote: 'IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT. Take It Or Leave It. I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Bali , we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Australians.' 'This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles, trials and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom' 'We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society . Learn the language!' 'Most Australians believe in God. This is not some Christian, right wing, political push, but a fact, because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our culture.' 'We will accept your beliefs, and will not question why. All we ask is that you accept ours, and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with us.' 'This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our Christian beliefs, or Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great Australian freedom, 'THE RIGHT TO LEAVE'.' 'If you aren't happy here then LEAVE. We didn't force you to come here. You asked to be here. So accept the country YOU accepted.' Maybe if we circulate this amongst ourselves, American citizens will find the backbone to start speaking and voicing the same truths. If you agree ... please SEND THIS ON.
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Post by fitgirly on Jan 9, 2008 2:28:07 GMT -5
Hell yeah I agree!! I wanna go live in Aus now Lee! It is sickening to think that we cater to the illegals and immigrants here. We have lost our country, no one fights for what the US was founded upon...sad
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Post by rockon4ever on Jan 9, 2008 7:09:19 GMT -5
Isn't this a factor in most countries? Intolerance for race, religion, sex, ect. No matter where you live, there are bigots, racist and radicals. Those are the ones who make issues and run with it. It happens in the states, Australia, South Africa.... getting out of that particular country because of this would be submitting to them. To give these radicals a power over you. Therefore you have your freedom to make your choices and one of them should be to have your say as well. To voice your opinion and to stand up for your beliefs. YOU are the one who will defeat this, not the government. THE PEOPLE ARE THE ONES WHO MAKE UP THIS COUNTRY... AND THERE NEED TO BE UNITY, A SENSE OF PRIDE AMONGST EACH AND EVERYONE. STAND TALL AND YOU WILL HAVE A BETTER COUNTRY. A STRONGER COUNTRY.
FIT... you say no one is fighting for this country, but what about the men and women dying each day BECAUSE of their love for this country. What is sad, is that this can be forgotten. That they are there, giving their lives for our freedom and peace of mind here. You say it's sickening that you as Americans cater to illegals and immigrants. I, as an immigrant have never felt catered too. I work hard to reach my dream. I do not depend on the government or the state I live in for my livelihood. I am proud to be here and to be able to make it on my own. Sick of immigrants...I guess then you'll have to comb Lee over that brush, since he's an immigrant. One that has busted his ass to make it his way here. And then get screwed by those same americans that is "catering" to him as a immigrant.
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Post by exfreak on Jan 9, 2008 7:55:50 GMT -5
Hell yeah I agree!! I wanna go live in Aus now Lee! It is sickening to think that we cater to the illegals and immigrants here. We have lost our country, no one fights for what the US was founded upon...sad Ignorance like that will bring this country to its knees. I as an American citizen am pround of some of our immigrants, they play by the rules and work very hard to make there dreams come true. I am sorry that you got offended Rock, not everyone feels the way Fit does!!!
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Post by fulgore on Jan 9, 2008 10:21:58 GMT -5
SUPPORT REVERSE IMMIGRATION!!!! yEEEEhaWWW
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Post by priest on Jan 9, 2008 10:29:34 GMT -5
ROCK FIT WAS TALKING ABOUT ILLEGALS AND ONES WHO COME OVER HERE AND TRY CHANGE OUR LAWS AND THE WAY AMERICANS DO THINGS...LIKE EVEN CHRISTMAS AND STUFF....SHE ISNT TALKING ABOUT YOU OR I OR ANYONE ELSE WHO DID IT THE RIGHT WAY...........SO YOUR POST WAS PRETTY STUPID TO GO OFF LIKE THAT......I COULD GO ON AND REPEAT SOME OF THE STUFF YOU HAVE SAID TO ME ABOUT BEING HERE AND HOW YOU WOULD LIKE TO GET OUT......WE ALL HAVE OUR DAYS WHEN WE SAY FUCK THIS OR THAT...BUT IN THE END USA IS A GREAT PLACE JUST TO BAD PEOPLE HAVE TO FUCK IT UP FOR OTHERS WHO REALLLY DO LOVE BEING HERE AND ACCEPT IT FOR WHAT IT IS AND DONT TRY TO COME HERE AND CHANGE SHIT...... I REPSECT THE PEOPLE FIGHTING OVERSEAS..BUT IF YOU THINK THEY ARE FIGHTING FOR YOUR FREEDOM...MMMMM.........WHEN HAVE AMERICANS...WHITE AMERICANS NEVER BEEN FREE.............. ? THEY WOULD DO MORE GOOD BACK HERE PATROLLING BOARDERS OR JUST BEING ON GAURD IN THE USA....NOT OVER THERE WE DONT BELONG OVER THERE SHOULD NEVER HAVE WENT........WHERE IS OSAMA WHO WAS BEHIND 9/11 ANYWAY....NO WE GOT THE OTHER GUY INSTEAD.....MMMMMMM WONDER WHY.......THE WHOLE WAR OVER THERE IS CRAZY...WARS NORMALLY ARE.....I HATE TO SEE AMERICANS GETTING KILLED FOR NOTHING.......THEY ALL NEED TO COME HOME....
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Post by rockon4ever on Jan 9, 2008 10:35:00 GMT -5
Lee I am not sitting here saying the war is just. It is pointless and those men and women need to be on american soil. I do not think my comment was stupid. I read what Fit said... and I had an opinion based on her statement. I would hope that I am also afforded a freedom of speech. To voice how I felt. To use the term immigrant(and not specify more) is to make a broad statement. Yes, there are illegal immigrant and then there are those who came here legally and are working to make sure they become American citizens. When a statement is made as in Fit's case..."it's sickening how we cater to illigals AND immigrants", it is my OPNINION that that includes all immigrants... Wouldn't a comment like that be considered STUPID AND IGNORANT?
I DO NOT APPRECIATE HAVING MY STATEMENT CALLED STUPID. YOU WOULD BE THE FIRST TO ADMIT THAT SAYING HOW YOU FEEL IS THE BEST CAUSE OF ACTION. WHAT MAKES MINE SO WRONG LEE?
There are many things I do not agree with here. But I have come to love and appreciate this country. There are many ppl in this country that I respect and look up too. And the freedom to speak openly and without being cencored for my thoughts. Or belittled because I have the ability to think for myself. This country was founded on freedom. A freedom that I will make use of. This is why I am here.
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Post by priest on Jan 9, 2008 12:36:06 GMT -5
CAUSE IT WAS F U C KIN STUPID...YOU JUST DIS LIKE FIT THAT IS WHY YOU ATTACK HER.....WHEN I READ HER STATEMENT ABOUT ILLEGALS AND IMMAGRANTS I CA NTELL SHE IS TALKING ABOUT THE IMMAGRANTS WHO DO COME HERE LEGALLY THEN TRY AND CHANGE SHIT .......THEY CAME HER FOR A REASON TO LEAVE THERE COUNTRY AND FOR A BETTER LIFE SO WHY COME HERE AND MAKE IT LIKE THE PLACE YOU LEFT.........
SO I THINK YOU NEED TO READ HER REPLY AGAIN AND TAKE YOUR HATE FOR HER OUT OF IT AND READ IT FOR WHAT IT IS.......YOU JUST WANTED TO ATTACK HER.....YES YOU CAN HAVE FREEDOM OF SPEECH EVEN WHEN IT IS STUPID............. ANY MORON EVEN ME CAN SEE WHAT SHE MEANT AS CLEAR AS DAY...BUT YOUR HATRED FOR HER CLOUDS YOUR ABILITY TO READ HER POST.....
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Post by rockon4ever on Jan 9, 2008 13:34:47 GMT -5
It was not my hatred for her as a person. I read what she said... and I based what I said on that. Baseless attacks on ppl are NOT my thing. If I don't like you, then I will state it clear as day. Will I call someone stupid because of what they say... never. They have their right...so do I.
I don't give a f u ck if you're an immigrant...as long as you do not enter a country with the notion of changing things there. PPl want to change everything...and that change is not always good. Change things for yourself and live the way you want. But don't enforce your will on others.
So I find myself on here defending myself for something I said in connection with another members comments....and not according to you....because I hate her. I hated her STATEMENT.
If ask how I feel in connection with you as a person then f u ck I will tell you to your fvckin face...no need for me to pretend.
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Post by rockon4ever on Jan 9, 2008 13:51:23 GMT -5
FIT ... that was not an attack on your person. It had everything to do with what you said. And what I did was speak my mind. Apparently that was wrong of me, not to have the same opinion as others here.
But since it was so eloquently brought up that I hate you... let me make one thing clear. Do I dislike you...YES. Do I hate you... NO. Certain things transpired for my dislike towards you. I have never sat here and pretended friendliness. And I don't give a f u c k about what anyone thinks of me. This is who I am, no bullshit and f uck the rest.
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Post by fitgirly on Jan 9, 2008 15:03:52 GMT -5
Rock, you can dislike me all you want, for whatever made up reasons you have in your head. I have been nothing but respectful and cordial to you. You dont know me so it really is no skin off my back as to what you think of me. But please stop tearing apart every post I make. Just let it be, no matter what the topic is I post on, you always rip it apart. IF you dont have anything polite to say, please dont critique every single post of mine....I dont do that to you. You make it tough for me to want to post on this board when you always single me out. Lee you hit the nail on the head , I am not great at getting my points across, maybe I left out a few words but it was late at night, so sorry if I didnt SPELL out every detail in my first post Rock. Yes, I am very grateful for EVERY SINGLE American fighting overseas, its not their fault they are there, its our stupid president that sent them. And I was not talking about LEGAL immigrants, I was referring to the illegals and others who suck our countries resources and take jobs away from Americans, the same ones who make cat calls out of their cars at women and think that we sould be speaking THEIR language then they waive their country's flags here.
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Post by rockon4ever on Jan 9, 2008 15:14:48 GMT -5
I am not singleling you out. I have not done that before and I am not doing it now. I said what I had to say. I am not apologizing for it. You had your say...and in return I had mine. This whole situation got blown out of proportion. Now here it is...once again being stated that I am attacking you as a person. Read my comment Fit. I referenced your points, not you. But if that is going to be thrown at me that I am attacking you... then I guess I am wrong once again. You have Lee in your corner. What better person to back you up and whatever you say. Yes, it has become hard posting here. When negative things are said in connection with me for being blunt and upfront, then I find it pointless to voice what I feel and think.
I will never stop having my own opinion, but maybe this is not the board where I should have them. You want to point out that you've been cordial...short memory. I do remember a post (a few) that was rather disrespectfull toward me. Directly from you, hence my dislike. These are not in my head. But I will let this matter rest. My life is too short to be wasted on trivial things as this.
Enjoy your day and don't sweat this.
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Post by exfreak on Jan 9, 2008 15:24:00 GMT -5
Rock, you can dislike me all you want, for whatever made up reasons you have in your head. I have been nothing but respectful and cordial to you. You dont know me so it really is no skin off my back as to what you think of me. But please stop tearing apart every post I make. Just let it be, no matter what the topic is I post on, you always rip it apart. IF you dont have anything polite to say, please dont critique every single post of mine....I dont do that to you. You make it tough for me to want to post on this board when you always single me out. Lee you hit the nail on the head , I am not great at getting my points across, maybe I left out a few words but it was late at night, so sorry if I didnt SPELL out every detail in my first post Rock. Yes, I am very grateful for EVERY SINGLE American fighting overseas, its not their fault they are there, its our stupid president that sent them. And I was not talking about LEGAL immigrants, I was referring to the illegals and others who suck our countries resources and take jobs away from Americans, the same ones who make cat calls out of their cars at women and think that we sould be speaking THEIR language then they waive their country's flags here. I really don't remember Rock ever picking apart your posts!!! I do remember a couple of months that you called Rock out on her posts but nothing was ever said to you Fit....WTF is up with that?? I don't understand why Rock is always bullied on this board!!!! Seems strange!!! Maybe its because she is so F U C King brutally honest and don't pull any punches!!!!! I guess in her case honesty doesn't pay!!!!
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Post by fitgirly on Jan 9, 2008 15:40:17 GMT -5
That is a blatent lie! I NEVER EVER directed that post i made MONTHS AGO AT ANYONE. it was generalized statement. As Rock would probably say...its not my fault if some took it personally. I dont hold grudges, life is too short for that, and since then I have always been nice to you Rock, I know you dont care what I think of you, but it is good to have you here! EX- I understand that she is not attacking ME as a person, again I never said that, I only said my POSTS get hit by her. Why cant I post one f u c k n thing without a problem anymore. There were never problems like this when the board started, I understand we all have opinions, but cant we all just be happy and agree to disagree? Water under the bridge people, lets move on to more important things like actually fixing this country, fighting poverty, curing diseases, helping abandoned pets, and love eachother!!
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Post by rockon4ever on Jan 9, 2008 15:46:04 GMT -5
F uck this has gotten out of hand. Let's agree we don't like each other and f uckin move on. This is bullshit, that no one these days can have differing opinions. Shit, that is the reason this damn country is in turmoil at times.
I don't give a flying crap what you or anyone else thinks of me. I can live with who I am. That is enough for me.
Thank you Freak for standing in my corner. I didn't expect it, but I do appreciate it. It's ppl like you that makes posting here fun.
I am past this crap...this morning was wasted on this and I refuse to waste any more of my time.
Have a great day Fit and say hi to Lee ;D
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